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Christoph Sturm

Hey Manuel!

which of those points doenst apply to rails?

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Manuel

Hi Chris,

I don't know Rails well.

Here's a short article about the two systems:

http://www.scratchdisk.com/Random+Notes/November+2005/Helma+VS+Rails/

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What does Helma have to do with Lisp exactly? I saw that it is written in Java and see a lot of mention of Javascript in this post but nothing about Lisp at any level. What gives?

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It feels as good as a Lisp-based environment (such as Hunchentoot or Chicken's Spiffy). And in some senses Helma is more convenient than them: you have access to many libraries, and it works mostly identical on all major platforms. You have to pay the Java tax though.

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here is something i got on HELMA website:

Helma is written in Java and employs Javascript for its server-side scripting environment, removing the need for compilation cycles and reducing development costs while giving you instant access to leverage the whole wealth of Java libraries out there.

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Pervasive JavaScript: JavaScript is the only language you need to completely control Helma.

Convenient services: Helma provides a lot of convenient services, like a cron-scheduler and logging.

Zero-configuration: To run Helma, just dl it and run the start script. Presto. Creating a new app is equally simple.

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